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mist-e
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 Posted - 07/16/2010 : 8:49:45 PM
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| $110-$120,000 + benefits. What is his salary and benefits here? Hopefully they are offering more. |
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vblainev
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Posted - 07/16/2010 : 9:22:53 PM
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But man does Lazarus and he creates a whole bunch of it!!
The process is, the Commission makes it know they are searching for a City Manager, they requests applications for the job. They review the applications and choose candidates to interview. They narrow the field through the interview process and finally hire a new City Manager as an employee of the City Commission.
My hope is, they choose a City Manager who does not live in the area. I believe hiring a City Manager from the area creates way to many friendship alliances and deals with personal friends that have cost this city and placed it's finances at risk.
I don't believe having a City Managers friends serving on the Commission is a wise or healthy way to do government.
I believe the Welton Development issue is a perfect example.
I believe it also creates poor hiring practices! They have a tendency to hire their friends rather than qualified personnel. They tend to look for loyalty rather than the best person for the job.
There are too many issues, alliances and deals behind closed doors when hiring a local Manager.
The Judge issue in Wendy H. lawsuit is another example of what happens when a local City manager is hired. This Judge was a personal friend of Our City manager and it affected her case for two years.
We should bring in highly qualified candidates with a proven successful track record from a good distance away, not a friend of a friend or someone who already has ties to Three Rivers.
We need a fresh start with new ideas and the skills to deal with our 8,000,000.00 or so deficit!
We have many challenges in our city from the waste water plant to the chlorination of our city water. We have a crime rate problem and the over taxing of the citizens of three Rivers.
It's time for an qualified experienced City Manager with the skills to work for this Commission and the citizens of Three Rivers!! |
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workingmom
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Posted - 07/16/2010 : 9:47:22 PM
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| Very well said and a good summary of past practices. |
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amazon
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Posted - 07/17/2010 : 07:22:54 AM
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Devil's advocate response:
Bring in someone from outside the community; however, that person won't live in a vacuum and eventually befriends people, rewards loyalty, etc. We'll have to build a robot void of human tendencies to be rid of human foibles.
Also, I thought that by voting in people for commission, we lessened the tendency for everyone to go along with the manager. Perhaps the issue is not whether a manager is local, but that the manager gets to hold to position without "term limit."
Someone new is intriguing, but let the people of Jackson be our reminder: what The People don't know can be polished and dodged in a job interview.
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vblainev
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Posted - 07/17/2010 : 08:58:04 AM
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True statement Amazon but it would take some time to develop those friendships or alliances so I believe hiring from a good distance away provides some important safe guards.
A City Manager does not need to live in the area to know how to manage a city. I managed Hardware Stores for 15 years. I can manage a hardware store anywhere. I understand the business, likewise with A City Manager.
I think it's important to hire a City Manager that is comfortable with OUR City Charter and his position established by that charter. A City Manager that sees himself as an employee of the Commission and the Citizens of Three Rivers, comfortable with taking directions and then executing the will of the Commission.
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 07/19/2010 : 1:34:13 PM
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| I still say bring back Wendy Hostetler. We know she's honest and two years of fighting lawyers will have toughened her up enough, plus she knows all the people with agendas... |
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Easter
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:00:55 AM
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| I am not involved in Three Rivers "politics". While reading these post(s) it occured to me that it may be beneficial for each of you to step in and run the city for a while until they are able to find a replacement. I do not know if any of us are qualified to judge another until we walk in their shoes. Your comments are very unkind and I do not know that you would be able to do a better job. I do not know Mr. Bippus or the others that you are talking about. I am suprised about all of the negative comments as there must be some positive things that they have accomplished. There are many complaints about Three Rivers and I understand that there are problems, but many of you seem to be the problem with your negative attitude. Why would you drive around town to check out political signs and where they are placed at? I would not have time to do that. I |
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Brat65
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 10:22:37 AM
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| It's not hard when driving to see those signs and notice that they are placed illegally and who's sign it is. By the way the ones placed illegally are all the same person. I have lived in TR my entire life so I know what possitive things have happened since the Browned Table took over. The problem is the huge amount of bad things far outweighs anything that might have been good. |
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Buck
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 1:27:22 PM
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I am not involved in Three Rivers "politics". While reading these post(s) it occured to me that it may be beneficial for each of you to step in and run the city for a while until they are able to find a replacement.
Let me at it. On second thought I can't take the pay cut. 
But seriously I would never survive a (permanent) government job. The People would have me removed as soon as I made it clear that I believe that what we currently call government is the enemy of Liberty and that they should stop looking to government to nanny them and or as a method to control the behaviours of others.
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I do not know if any of us are qualified to judge another until we walk in their shoes.
So by that logic we can't:
Criticize the President (current or past) unless we have been President.
Criticize the CEO of BP unless we have been a CEO of a major oil company.
Criticize smokers unless we have been smokers.
Criticize criminals unless we have been criminals.
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Your comments are very unkind and I do not know that you would be able to do a better job. I do not know Mr. Bippus or the others that you are talking about. I am suprised about all of the negative comments as there must be some positive things that they have accomplished.
There have absolutely been some positive things that have happened in this city but one's successes does not necessarily trump one's failures (or transgressions as the case may be).
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There are many complaints about Three Rivers and I understand that there are problems, but many of you seem to be the problem with your negative attitude. Why would you drive around town to check out political signs and where they are placed at? I would not have time to do that. I
For me it is important to point these things out because it demonstrates the hypocrisy that goes on with ALL government. If you leave your garbage can on your terrace for more then 24 hours the city can ticket you. We should hold those who write the rules accountible for following the same rules they that they impose on us.
Liberty First. Everything else second. |
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Easter
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 2:28:31 PM
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| I think that you make some excellent points. Especially the point regarding "I do not know if any of us are qualified to judge another until we walk in their shoes." I did not think of it that way. Some of the others we may have a difference of opinion, but I respect what you are saying |
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Buck
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 2:56:19 PM
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Easter for the record I don't think that all your points were invalid either. I just think we ALL have to keep perspective when we have these discussions.
Liberty First. Everything else second. |
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pepa
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Posted - 08/04/2010 : 11:31:24 AM
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So, when does the door hit the Bippuss where the good Lord split him? I say instead of a severance pay, we give him a severance bill of what he has cost the city all these years.
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pepa
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Posted - 08/04/2010 : 11:34:11 AM
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P.S. Has Daryl come out yet from behind the brown table or do we have to send in a crack team of firemen to chop it apart.
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"Three Rivers needs an Honest Joe in City Hall." Pepa
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mist-e
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 1:15:07 PM
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| Sturgis City Manager Mike Hughes refused a pay increase for the third time in five years!!! Because of the financial condition of the city. Has Bippuss ever refused a pay increase? Mike's salary is $99,284. Maybe our commission should consider stealing Mike from Sturgis. |
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Buck
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Bippus a finalist for city manager in Jackson
