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pepa
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 Posted - 12/30/2008 : 10:19:15 AM
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Speaking of water...just wondering, I remember a few years ago TR tacked on a "fuel surcharge" to the water bills because of the rising cost of "fuel/gasoline." Since the price of gasoline has dropped, is the surcharge still on the water bill?
Most likely not the city now has three suv to pay fuel for. Two police cruisers and Joe's personal vehicle, I mean the Durango.
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"If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons." unknown
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kyhun
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 12:52:04 PM
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| Should our water bill show a 25% discount on water usage since we had no water for a week |
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trading tales
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Posted - 01/05/2009 : 09:09:25 AM
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| Well If you didn't use the water your not charge for the water. You only pay for what you use. |
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Brat65
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Posted - 01/05/2009 : 09:45:42 AM
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| That's not true. You pay a flat rate even if you use NO water in a month. It is the cities way of getting a known amount of money every month. |
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trhunter
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Posted - 01/07/2009 : 12:37:39 PM
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Most likely not the city now has three suv to pay fuel for. Two police cruisers and Joe's personal vehicle, I mean the Durango.
Pepa just to set the record straight the two Police Tahoes get the same city gas mileage as the Crown Victorias. EPA estimate of 14. So you would be paying for the same amount of gas either way. No comment on the Durango.
Something I did discover while looking this up is that there are hybrid Tahoes that get 25% better gas mileage than the standard Tahoe. EPA estimate of 20 mpg in the city. Couldn't find anyting about a hybrid Crown Victoria.
People sleep peacably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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pepa
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Posted - 01/07/2009 : 9:40:42 PM
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Pepa just to set the record straight the two Police Tahoes get the same city gas mileage as the Crown Victorias. EPA estimate of 14. So you would be paying for the same amount of gas either way. No comment on the Durango.
trhunter
Found the MSPolice Vehicle evaluation for 07. Pages 58-59. Talks about the different mpgs on each vehicle. It does not look into the Police version of Durango. Which is the other police cruiser. Most of the Durango owners I've talked to complain about the mpg. So, you are right about the mpg for both the Vic and Tahoe. (16mpg)avg.
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/VehicleEvaluation2007_MSP-PoliceVehicleComp_182663_7.pdf
Anyway the water issue here in TR is more to do with the incompetence and inaction of the head of DPW.
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 01/08/2009 : 10:35:34 AM
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Buck
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Posted - 01/19/2009 : 12:18:56 PM
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Proposed chlorination of the city's drinking water supply will be considered by the Three Rivers City Commission during its meeting Tuesday evening (January 20th).
Commissioners asked for a report on the subject at their January 6th meeting following a nearly week-long "boil water notice" prompted by a loss of pressure in the city's water system in late December.
Source: River Country Journal
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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Buck
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mist-e
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USA
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Posted - 01/24/2009 : 12:41:20 AM
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| I urge all city residents to attend the public hearing Feb.3rd. at 6pm at city hall on chloridation. The city wants to add 3 chemicals to our drinking water. Chlorine which causes cancer and destroys the good bacteria in our bodies, then a chemical to remove the red that the chlorine will turn the water. They talked about adding floride which is also said to be toxic. Do you want these chemicals put into you childrens, animals or your bodies? I do not! Our goverment and leaders at one time said Phen Phen, Agent Orange and DDT were safe. Then they were found to be extremly hazardous to our heath after it was too late. People were becomming deathly ill. To my knowledge there has not been a recent report of Cholera or any major health threat from our drinking water in Three Rivers lately. |
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vblainev
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 11:24:40 AM
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Information from the public hearing is quite concerning !
A gentlemen who lives in Three Rivers but works for Elkhart water division brought more light to the water problem.
He said many of our water issues are unacceptable and totally preventable.
Did you know we were losing 43% of our water to unknown ? Talk about unacceptable !!
A question this gentlemen asked was, who is paying for the lost water.
I understand the loss has been reduced to 25% but that is still unacceptable and the same question remains. Who's paying for the lost water ? Is this one of the reasons we are paying such high water bills?
It was also very interesting when Commissioner Keith told Joe Bippus he needed to be held accountable for the issue and that Joe's answer for the lost water pressure that caused the boil water notice was unacceptable. His comments seemed directed at a cover up rather than straight forward answers. This city needs to have a total disclosure policy so WE their employer known what's what. These guys are suppose to work for us. They are managers not owners. Managers give an account to the owners.
Remember back when I brought some information about our crime issues to the commission. Joe's response was to call each officer in his office for a one on one meeting to find out, who was talking to me. Not quite a total disclosure mentality. I believe there is much more information out there that the citizens have right to know.
Commissioner Starks brought up Jim Roesbaum and asked if we have the right people in the right places. He also raised the question, Have we put to much on Jims plate to the point, he can't do the job?
I also raised that question way back when Jim was appointed Head of DPS even though he was head of waste water division. Mark Glessner was working 50 plus hours then and Jim was working 45 plus but now Jim is able to do both men's jobs ?????
I also hear just recently we had a main water line break and rather than pay overtime Jim let it run all weekend ? Real responsible ? Lets get more information on this issue alone.
I think it's evident we have a problem. I think it's also evident we're not hearing the total truth. It seems butts are being covered and the truth is yet to be heard !
So make some phone calls and ask, Why is this acceptable? Who's paying for the lost water and why was the water main break allowed to run all weekend ? Oh and maybe the total truth about our recent 8 day boil water issue ? |
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mist-e
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 1:52:32 PM
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| I question wether the city wanted to pay for holiday O.T. to have someone come in and check the water stats. Was it easier for them to keep the boil order thru the holiday into the following week. Why didn't they just add bleach to the system, call it good and the city would have been up and running within a couple days. Rumor control has it. Jim Roesbaum retired but agreed to return to work because the city has no replacement for him. Does anyone know if this is true? |
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vblainev
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 2:18:01 PM
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| No that's not true, Doug is qualified to replace Jim from what I understand ! |
Edited by - vblainev on 02/07/2009 7:59:11 PM |
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 02/08/2009 : 6:17:48 PM
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Seems like we've been here before on other issues (Wendy Hochstetler, Dave Welton etc) and it still comes down to WHO are the CIty Commission and it manager working for? Themselves, or the taxpayers?
If they didn't have anything to hide, why aren't they open and honest about issues?
If they're convinced they're doing their job properly and in the public's best interest - why won't the share information more openly?
If you hide facts then people are going to assume it's a cover up.
And shouldn't they ALL be ashamed of themselves that in this day and age, in AMERICA the leader of the western world, a small city government can't even provide a sustainable, clean water supply! |
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mist-e
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Posted - 02/08/2009 : 10:42:03 PM
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| Afraid the commissioners and Mayor will provide sustainable water. They especially the mayor are pushing this too fast. They want to force the city to have chlorinated water. They do not want the people to decide. Afraid we will not vote it in. I am starting to smell a skunk! All they have to do is tell the state there plan is to put it on the ballot. The state can not force the city to chlorinate. I shudder to think that 6 or 7 people have the power to tell a whole city what we will put into our bodies. Especially chemicals. |
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