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Easter
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 Posted - 05/30/2009 : 09:20:13 AM
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| silentTRobserver-I agree. I do not understand the authority board. Do they have any power or control? They have to realize how the majority of Three Rivers feels about TRH and the management. It is obvious that the current management is not able to run the hospital in an efficient and productive manner. Why does the authority board participate in the mismanagement? Aren't they concerned about the current state of the hospital and the lack of quality care? I do realize that I am not a board member and I have not walked in their shoes, but I would be embarrassed to be on the TRH authority board. They are intelligent people...........what's the problem? |
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Stillwaters
Advocate
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Posted - 05/30/2009 : 1:49:48 PM
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You they would have learned by now that every story in the news about them antagonizes the public even further!
Why and how does it do that? (And please this is an honest inquiry I want to know your take on it)
"I never consider a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend." - Thomas Jefferson
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Time For Change
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Posted - 05/31/2009 : 04:18:31 AM
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I think what silentobserver is getting at is the fact that the TRH Admin and Board keep making bad decisions in their "time of need." They say there is no money and want the taxpayers to give them money, they close down an entrance because they can't afford to pay for repairs and then they go out and sign a new lease agreement that is more money- I am sure we could go on and on but to me that sticks out. I also agree with you easter-I would be embarrassed to say I was a TRH Board Member. Another thing how many of the Board Members actually use the facility. Do they themselves see any of the physicians or PA's in the clinics? Do they take their kids or family members there? Does Laurie, Steve, or Matt use the facility for medical care? There are many employees that do not get their care at TRH as well-why is that?  |
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vblainev
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2009 : 08:49:41 AM
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Perception is the issue. I believe this hospital management needs to consider each financial decision with the public's perception in mind or more to the point, their source of funding in mind! It seems from my limited perspective they're spending money again when cut backs were the implied results of the millage defeat. Drastic cutbacks were suppose to be the result and that's NOT what this looks like!
It seems to me again from my limited perspective this hospitals focus would be to do EVERYTHING they can to WIN OVER their funding source, the public who puts up the money to run this thing.
I sure don't feel they're trying to win me over matter of fact I still feel there is animosity toward us because we didn't give them more money!! |
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silentTRobserver
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 05/31/2009 : 12:36:54 PM
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Oops not meant to be mutiple posting but this answers a couple of previous questions:
TFC is right about the bad decision making, but the other thing is that not all publicity is good publicity, particularly when people are hostile towards you. There's been a flurry of articles (with some abetting from a sympathetic news reporter), first about the benefits of the hospital, then all the 'feel good' pictures about awards both to the hospital and staff.
The outside awards were from peer organizations who probably have never had to use the place, and if you're one of the multiple members of staff that have been let go, I doubt you got excited about seeing others who are still currently employed getting service awards. It was also interesting to see how many long-time staff members have disappeared too, when they would have qualified for 15 or 20 year recognition. Just keeping the 'yes' people I guess.
Don't know if the top management uses the hospitals services but it used to be that all the staff were encouraged to be treated there. It was a plus, plus from their point of view, they could charge the insurance companies top whack while at the same time providing minimum services. After all if you work there are you really going to complain about waiting for a nurse or poor food? Think not. |
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vblainev
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2009 : 2:37:06 PM
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| Great story silentTRobserver, I just took the time to watch the story and it is very encouraging. Just the goodwill alone is huge. It's a Team working together for the best for ALL involved. I bet the community is in this hospitals corner!! Talk about thinking OUTSIDE the box. What a leadership example as a CEO to take the pay cut so other who make far less can keep their jobs. GREAT STORY |
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 07:56:49 AM
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| It's a pity that ALL companies in trouble in Michigan didn't look at that alternative before filing for bankruptcy and throwing people into the unemployment lines. |
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broke
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 10:19:57 PM
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There they go again- moving to a new facility-- if the first one wasn't making money why would a larger one be more profitable? In addition to $ for the lease, involved are moving costs, days of lost revenue to close and open the facilities, remodeling, equipment needs, supplies- all equals to more than ~$1200 per year.
Yet there is no money to patch potholes-interesting.
Like time for change says and I have been saying all along- mismanagement. The big three need to go- new blood needed. example GM |
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 11:10:47 PM
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| Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't their brainless CEO hit every township and city meeting for a couple of months pleading poverty and begging for we hapless citizens to fork over more of our tax dollars to continue to fund their profligate spending! |
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Buck
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 11:24:52 PM
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Why does this discussion always have to go to this level? How does insulting people help make your point? I am not just referring to this last post either. There is one a couple of posts up that was added a couple of days ago also.
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vblainev
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 06:47:47 AM
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Buck, It's a passionate subject and obviously many hard feelings from employees to general citizens. I know your feelings toward Matt Chambers but others don't feel that way because of their own personal experiences.
Management spending is a big concern for myself and many others who feel money hasn't been spent wisely but yet they're asking for more and now spending more. There also seem to be a disconnect this management has with the public and how it's spending is perceived. There are good people on both sides of this one!! As I said before, I think it has to do with vantage point and personal experiences, good or bad.
There are many who think Joe Bippus is a good guy but have never experienced being on his bad side. Obviously I'm not one of those people but if you've never crossed him you've never seen that side.
This hospital has some huge issues to overcome from citizens past experiences to financial issues, my perception is I don't think they're doing a good job convincing the general public or overly concerned about the publics opinion. |
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Buck
Forum Admin
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 07:07:45 AM
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I know your feelings toward Matt Chambers but others don't feel that way because of their own personal experiences.
You don't know my feelings about him. Nobody here does because I haven't stated them. All I have done is asked people to stop calling him names.
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Management spending is a big concern for myself and many others who feel money hasn't been spent wisely but yet they're asking for more and now spending more. There also seem to be a disconnect this management has with the public and how it's spending is perceived. There are good people on both sides of this one!! As I said before, I think it has to do with vantage point and personal experiences, good or bad.
The ends do not justify the means.
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There are many who think Joe Bippus is a good guy but have never experienced being on his bad side. Obviously I'm not one of those people but if you've never crossed him you've never seen that side.
Blaine I have been on the opposite side of Joe Bippus's commission for almost 8 years now and have not had to resort to senseless name calling to make all my points.
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This hospital has some huge issues to overcome from citizens past experiences to financial issues, my perception is I don't think they're doing a good job convincing the general public or overly concerned about the publics opinion.
That all may be true but the opposition to the millage request sets itself back some when they resort to these tactics.
Government is too big and too important to be left to the politicians. |
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vblainev
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 8:05:40 PM
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Sorry Buck,I guess I assumed your feelings were the same as Rhonda's because we have talked a great deal about it.
I don't believe I resorted to names calling, The only thing I said was I didn't believe scare tactics had integrity.
The opposition is not a group, they are individuals who have their own feelings and oppose the increase for their own reasons. My reasons have always been, I can't afford it !
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Buck
Forum Admin
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 9:04:38 PM
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No problem Blaine and I wasn't referring to you on the name calling thing.
Government is too big and too important to be left to the politicians. |
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