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tlsnoopy
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 Posted - 12/07/2008 : 10:23:08 PM
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I don't think any of us will ever know all the details that contributed to this poor girls death. It's only when their is a tragedy like this that most people take notice of the thousands of children that need help. So take notice, if you aren't able to help these children by becoming a foster parent or advocate make sure our elected officials understand that this is not an area to cut standards, training, and funding. If you have a suspicion, make the call don't wait for someone else too or assume that it would do no good anyway.
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Buck
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2008 : 12:11:05 PM
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An update on this news item from the River Country Journal.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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Buck
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 01/15/2009 : 12:37:18 PM
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McDonough amends charges against Anthony and Marsha Springer.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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runnachick
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Posted - 01/15/2009 : 1:35:47 PM
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| I dont know what kind of prosecutor John will be, but I for one am encouraged to see him taking such a strong stand against this horrific crime. |
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Buck
Forum Admin
USA
5724 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 12:07:45 PM
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Anthony & Marsha Springer arraigned on amended charges.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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liberty1st
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Posted - 02/17/2009 : 09:09:32 AM
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This is a sad story all around and you can blame plenty of different people. I do not have full knowledge of the scenario so I find it hard to point fingers. What was the poor girls handicap? I have heard rumors that she would on occasionally get out of the house and not be able to find her way back. If she was locked in her room and not chained to a bed would it be any different. How far was she from a window. Would she have been able to freely roam around in a nursing home or specific facility that would meet her needs.
My point to this is I am lucky enough to have healthy children. I do not know the enough of the circumstances behind this to make a complete judgment. I do know however that the parents had a very difficult job if they had to keep track of there child (not leaving a child alone for a second) 24/7. When and how do you sleep? Would the child prosper better in a mental facility that's state ran(probably just had a budget cut)? The parents obviously loved there child or they would have gave it up long ago.
I ask myself would the child have been locked up if not in the parents care. Furthermore would the child have been able to get out of that facility if there was a fire? The answer is probable no? Dont be to quick to judge without all the facts. |
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 02/17/2009 : 9:44:28 PM
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There's a great deal of detail about this case on the Kalamazoo Gazette's website and there were a lot of news articles about the circumstances, both at the time of the fire, and when the Children's Ombudman release her report about it - although much of that was not made public, but some reporters got details.
You're right from what was said there was a lot of blame to go around. |
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runnachick
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Posted - 02/17/2009 : 10:00:26 PM
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| The blame solely lies with the parents and social services. The public did as we tell them to- report. The child WAS NOT disabled. If anything, the child could've been a bit on the anti-social side because she was treated like an animal from the get go by the parents that were supposed to take care of her. Were these just inept people who are too dumb to raise kids? one might think that. Although something to think about is the fact that Calista's 2 sisters werent treated the same. SHe was beaten, starved, and chained like an animal with dog chains. These are not parents worthy of your pity- trust me. |
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brammak
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Posted - 02/18/2009 : 01:25:37 AM
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runnachick, I agree with you as far as the "parents" are concerned. But I have to say that this only justifies my poor regard for "social services" and "friend of the court". These morons should be charged right along with the parents. They don't don't give a rat's a$$ about children's welfare, especially in this county.
"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore" Dorothy Gale |
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Easter
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Posted - 03/04/2009 : 2:41:07 PM
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I agree with the comment about social services. Why aren't they mentioned in the publicity? If there had been some type of intervention by CPS, would this child still be alive? If CPS would have been doing their job, would she be in a relative's home or another home where she would have been cared for? The statement I read was that the CPS worker was not working in that position anymore. Did they get transferred to another county as a CPS worker?
It is sad to think that this could have been prevented with some type of intervention from CPS. I am not saying that the parents are not responsible for this tragedy-they are, but they are not the only ones. |
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 03/04/2009 : 11:10:08 PM
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| Both CPS workers involved have now retired, so are not putting children anywhere at risk any more. |
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Walkinboots
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Posted - 03/12/2009 : 09:33:14 AM
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| Those workers may have retired but there are others to take their place. I hate to pop your bubble silentTRobserver but it is status quo at FIA. Until the mindset that a child is better off with natural parents it will stay the same. In some cases that may be so but if it is bad enough for the child or children to be removed, then it is usually bad enough to keep them out of that environment permanently. The health and welfare of the child should be the first concern -- not the parents. |
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 03/12/2009 : 10:19:36 AM
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| I merely said that those two individuals are not putting children at risk any longer - don't see any general comment in my remarks about the status of other workers at DHS do you? |
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Buck
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 07/13/2009 : 6:30:44 PM
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Parents of Calista Springer, who died in a fire while chained to her bed in 2008, file motions to quash the criminal charges against them.
Government is too big and too important to be left to the politicians. |
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silentTRobserver
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Posted - 07/13/2009 : 7:20:49 PM
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| I wonder why they think they are entitled to a fair trial (read the story). Nothing in their treatment of their daughter was fair. |
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Fatal Centreville Fire
